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[*] posted on 23-2-2008 at 01:24 PM
Jasmine= spoiled?



I don't get why everyone thinks she's spoiled, I don't see it. I think she's a cool Princess!



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[*] posted on 23-2-2008 at 05:20 PM


Agreed.
Jasmine is my second favorite princess, and even if people classify her as spoiled, it isn't like she can help it.





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[*] posted on 23-2-2008 at 05:28 PM


I don't think she is. She's supposed to be spoiled because she wants to marry for love? That's hardly what I would call spoiled, even if it was against her culture's tradition.

Of course, she is rich, but she's the daughter of the Sultan.





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She is one of my 3 fav princesses! and i dont think she is spoiled at all :D




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[*] posted on 23-2-2008 at 05:57 PM


She's my third favorite princess, too.
And I don't think she's spoiled. Is wanting to marry for love considered spoiled? I never thought so.








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Jasmine is my favourite princess, but I do see where people are soming from when they say she's spoiled. She does behave in a bratty, selfish way at some points-instead of trying to discuss the marriage thing with her father she refused to listen to what he had to say, which is unreasonable.

However, that does not change my opinion of her. Yeah, she may be spoiled but that makes her stand out from the other princesses. She's not just another 100% perfect young girl who's continuously nice to everyone regardless. And anyway, if she's spoilt it's probably all due to the fact that she's the Sultan's only daughter. And he's not very assertive is he? xDD

So yeah. Her 'spoilt-ness' is what makes me like her. It makes her more realistic. As a matter of fact, Ariel behaves more spoilt and I find her annoying sometimes-but with Jasmine, I can put up with her spoilt side. Meh. I don't think that even makes sense.





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I think she's spolit. She refuses to listen to anyone elses opinions, and thows a temper tantrum whenever things don't go her way. Thats the behaviour of a spoilt brat.



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I think she's spolit. She refuses to listen to anyone elses opinions, and thows a temper tantrum whenever things don't go her way. Thats the behaviour of a spoilt brat.

I do agree with you on that. ;)
Like I said in my last post, when her father is talking about the marriage she refuses to listen to his side and sulks when he doesn't listen to her.
Fair enough, I wouldn't want to marry some random prince just because the law said so. BUT if it was a tradition and my father really wanted me too, I would at least listen to his side of the arguement before sulking about it. She was being very unreasonable by expecting him to respect her opinion without her respecting his.

However, like I said, it makes her stand out. Everyone says they like Belle because she's nice to everyone, she stands up for herself and everything.
But it's unrealistic that Jasmine would be like Belle in that way. She's been isolated from the rest of the world-apparently she's only communicated with the Sultan, Jafar and random servants/princes. So..although I'm getting the feeling that I'm over-analysing the whole thing...it is probably far more likely that she would be a spoilt brat then another Belle, Esmerelda, Pocahontas etc.

Meh. She is still my favourite princess. It's part of her character and at least it's maintained in the sequels. And it does make her stand out from the 'nice' princesses. Ok, they're more likeable in that respect, but I personally go for characterisation over personality. On the other hand, people might say she's a bland character. But anyway.

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I think most Disney princesses are spoiled in their own way- look at how selfish Ariel acts in disobeying her father and not thinking about how her family might feel if she goes away without telling them. I don't think Jasmine acts any more spoiled than the others, but because of who she is and her lifestyle, it seems more obvious.




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Ariel is definately as spoilt as Jasmine, if not more so.
Then again (to keep a potentially essay-long post short) Ariel's spoilt behaviour could be put down to her age...some 16 year olds aren't as mature as others and..maybe she's one of the less matur? That may not be relevent, but I personally think Jasmine is 18 or so and therefore it's more obvious (in my opinion) that she's spoilt?
Meh. They're both pretty spoilt really. And I'm just trying to keep a debate going here. xDD I enjoy debates like this! :D





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[*] posted on 23-2-2008 at 09:45 PM


Lol, I like debates like this too. Is Jasmine older than Ariel? I've always seen them as about the same age. I think I'm probably also thinking of the little mermaid in Hans Christian Andersen's story, which might not be relevant coz Ariel's a more developed character, but in the book it's more explicit about how much her family suffer, e.g. when her sisters trade their hair with the sea witch. Although Jasmine seems spoiled, I think it's partly down to her lack of outside contact- if you never see any of the outside world, you're going to find it hard to think about people other than yourself.




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I agree with Bunny I dont think shes really spoiled at all. Sure shes has a little temper and very headstrong but that's what makes her very different then the damsel in distress kinda princesses. Also I agree on her wanting to marry for love does not make her spoiled at all. Heck who doesn't want that? it shows she stands up for what she believes in and doesn't care what people really think of her at all.

But yea maybe I'm a bit bias also because Jas along with Belle is my favorite Disney princess:D




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Jasmine is a little spoiled, because she has a devoted father who has completely doted on her. She expects to get her way, and she can get angry when she does not. However, that does not mean she is a complete brat. I don't think a self absorbed brat would give a hungry child a piece of fruit. She's spoiled and stubborn and sheltered, but like Bunny said, those things add to her character and make her much more interesting.



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To be honest Jasmine's always kinda annoyed me something about her always irkeed me, I don't hate her but she's just no my type of character! But I wouldn't call her spoiled (Considering I usually LIKE the spoilt characters lolz)! She's just tempermental, Stubborn, Hard-to-please, and Picky : )



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[*] posted on 24-2-2008 at 04:40 AM


i have a;ways seen her as spoiled for the fact of if she wante dto just be in lov she wouldnt dress like she does etc yes she is the sultans daughter but she could still dress down when she is with Aladdin



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[*] posted on 26-2-2008 at 05:26 PM


Jasmine is spoiled, if you think about it. I mean, if you consider the era she lives in, look at what she dresses and acts like. Most princesses in her situtation would be covered from head to toe and not have a say in who they marry at all. And if her father hasn't forced her into marriage yet, and she still complains, then yah, she's spoiled.
It's just hard for us to consider spoiled b/c we live in a different time and place. She's still a really cool princess, none the less.





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[*] posted on 26-2-2008 at 05:30 PM


Remembers when she says to Aladdin (about living in a palace) that people would "tell you how to dress". She doesn't choose what to wear.
Kinda ironic when you considered she'd probably get stoned to death for wearing that in an Islamic country, even nowadays. :thinking:




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[*] posted on 28-2-2008 at 10:27 PM


I think she might seem spoiled because she has no idea about what goes on outside of the palace. Like when she first goes to the marketplace and gives the little boy an apple without paying. She never had to so the thought doesn't even occur to her until its too late.

But I don't think that she's spoiled at all. She knows what she wants (ie. Marrying for love) but she's also very caring and kind. She doesn't seem spoiled to me at all.





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i don't think she is.... not really... infact not at all.. the sultan gives her a lot of space.. and i mean, she doesn't have that much.. and seems pretty down to earth etc



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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 10:41 PM


She's a little unfamiliar with life outside the palace ...but to be "spoiled" you must be ungrateful. I think she's aware of how fortunate she is, she just wants to see what's on the other side of the wall. Her disagreement with her father wouldn't change whether she was rich or poor. So, I wouldn't really call her spoiled.



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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 10:51 PM


I can see why people think she's spoiled - she has it all! A HUGE palace, a loving tiger as a pet, and a father that is willing to give her anything she wants.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE fan of Jasmine, but I just see where people are talking about her that way.

She complains because she has to marry a prince...most princesses wouldn't do that!





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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 10:54 PM


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She complains because she has to marry a prince...most princesses wouldn't do that!


I know, Prince Achmed was hawe! And I sympathized with him when Jasmine rejected him!




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[*] posted on 8-3-2008 at 10:57 PM


Lol, yeah! I agree that Jasmine was acting a little spoiled at that moment!




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Well... should she be happy to be told who she can and can't marry?




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I don't think it's spoiled wanting to be romantic and marrying for love.
Then again I'm a hopeless romantic so that's probably just me talking XD
I guess I'm spoiled because I wouldn't choose the prince either..I think love shouldn't be found that fast.. it takes time.. and she had that time in Aladdin and grew to love him..it just took merely getting out of your own little world and seeing how the real world is like..
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